UB Chat
Monday, November 24, 2008 - Annie Duke
I have been playing a lot more on UB lately and that just makes me want to talk about chat abuse. Now, don’t get me wrong, the vast majority of people who chat on the site are really nice. And I really enjoy going on the site and chatting with them. But you know the saying about one bad apple? I find it fascinating what people will do and say when they get to hide behind the anonymity of the net. The other day I was trying to play a friendly game of 10-20 hold’em and this one guy just starts berating the people chatting with me for being suck ups. Then he says I only play poker cause my brother gives me money and that I suck. It went on and on and he got meaner to me and the people at my table.
Now normally I just ignore people like that. But this particular night I was in a mood and I started into him. I asked him why he felt the need to spread whatever blackness and misery he felt in his soul around to everyone else at the table because clearly to spread misery the way he was he must feel such despair in his own life. Now, I admit it, that was a little harsh and I really try never to react that way. But something in this guy just made me want to say something. I needed to ask, just one time, why someone wanted to ruin everyone else’s good time like that. His answer? “You can just ban my chat if you don’t like it.”
But to that all I can say is why should I have to? Why should you behave in a way where I have to ban your chat in order to have a good time at the table? I mean, seriously. Think about it. That is such an absurd answer…like I am going to be a total miserable and despicable ass and if you call me on it well you can just ban my chat? What the hell kind of answer is that. By the way…that is about verbatim what I said back to him in the chat box and that actually finally got him to stop.
But what I really want is for everyone to think about why we are all chatting with each other in the first place. It shouldn’t be to berate each other. It should be to sling epithets at each other. Really, UB is an amazing community and we should all behave like a good community and respect each other and try to just have a good time and, certainly, not ruin anyone else’s good time. In the words of Rodney King, “can’t we all just get along?” In the meantime, I am going to keep playing and trying to make sure everyone has a good time no matter what you say to me because I believe almost everyone on UB is having fun and doesn’t want any of the negativity anyway.
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November 25th, 2008 at 1:07 am
Yes, Annie…I seem to remember that night ( I was an observer). I can’t believe how some people can have such disregard & disrespect for others. It’s sad & I think ur right about their own misery…they lash out like that getting some kind of endorphin rush, like a high, thinking it’s making them feel good but it’s just evil taking over
their existence. Again,it’s just>>>So Sad.
I’m glad u posted on this subject.It needed to be said.
GL at the tables, I enjoy watching u play! God Bless
November 25th, 2008 at 5:52 am
I think you’re talking about me! Yeah, I definitely said all that. But, I am definitely not the only one! I’m sorry but UB pros should be ready for this stuff! They should understand/accept that there is a lot of people watching you play (observers) that haven’t obtained pro-status yet, and most never will!! So in our eyes, what else could be more fun, while were on UB, than to try get a pro to go on tilt!?
(by the way… this is the 1st time I’ve ever checked a blog on UB, and what a coincidence I would check it right now… hmm… right after this post went up! which is totally the reason I felt the need to reply.)
But, back to the point… So, at the table the other night… I said your brother gave you all the money to play, and I said you suck at poker… it was just a joke!! You’re a millionaire! I can’t believe this would bother you! I’d hate for you to have to play mike the mouth heads up…
Anyways, my days of not sucking up to, and chatting to, UB’s elite are officially over, I can see it was just too much.
And guys, miserable existence? Evil taking over their existence? LMAO! Sorry, but sorry you’re way off. Thanks for judging me though, both of you… and you’ll probably delete this post as well, because you can’t believe I’d actually have the balls to comment on this post… but I’ll say it again, it’s fun trying to put a pro on tilt. That’s the bottom line.
Your friend,
-B
November 25th, 2008 at 11:14 am
I did not say that is bothered *me*. I said it was rude to the other players at the table trying to have a good time. This comment is exactly what I am talking about.
November 25th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
It seems like it bothered you a lot – you made a whole blog about it! I’m just glad I stumbled upon this blog while it was still new, because it is only fair that I would get the chance to defend myself, seeing as how a lot of your fans are reading this blog. They probably remember exactly the player your talking about, and it’s me. I should be the only one offended here. I’m not the bad apple, or the miserable human being you’re making me out to be. Granted, everyone likes to be the judge.
So, should I apologize for not being the same as everyone else who is chatting?? I, too, if I want to chat, should make small talk with Annie Duke at the table?
While making small talk with a pro sounds nice and fun and relaxing and all, it’s sooo much more fun, for those of us capable, to see if we can get inside the head of a pro while they play. It’s just a game.
Anyways, if the problem continues for the pros, you guys should just block OBS chat, you shouldn’t just bar people’s accounts!
Your friend,
B
November 25th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Great post Annie. This stuff happens all the time, and at every site I play at. I agree with you that it’s kind of rude, but I don’t ever discourage it at the table, as it often works in my favor if someone gets off their game. I just ignore it as best I can. As a pro, you do become somewhat a target for this stuff, and that kind of sucks for sure.
I also want to say I really appreciate you posting AND replying on this blog, even when the comments are not totally favoring you. I’ve just recently started playing at UB again, and I certainly don’t remember this kind of interactive opportunity before. No offense to your brother, because I’m a big fan of his and enjoy playing on his site, but they could take a note from you and the other pros who have posted here so far. That’s a pretty consistent complaint on the forum over there. Anyways, I think it’s great that you share your perspective and personality here with other players and give them a chance to give them their 2 cents also. You’re a pretty class player in my book!
November 26th, 2008 at 12:46 am
Hey B, I hope I never qualify as a “friend” cause your whole message is just sad. I didn’t see what you typed to Anne…but your responses here are idiotic enough for me to get the drift.
Being an a-hole is not getting in someone’s head…its just being an a-hole…and if you don’t know the difference..well than that would explain a lot.
I am pretty sure that with Anne’s success..she’s not going to get to rattled at some punk chatting at her at a $10/$20. So you defending it just makes you sound that much worse.
The summary of her blog is that people need to chat / type with some respect..and about 99 out of 100 on UB do so..unfortunately, you rank in the unfortunate 1% that ruin it for so so many.
Fitz
November 26th, 2008 at 1:59 am
LOL ok Judge.
Your friend,
B
November 26th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
1st… I say DITTO to Scott.
2nd… Just want to quote what I’d sometimes over hear my grandmother say when I was a child,”Can’t put brains were there aren’t any!” As I grew up, I realized what she meant!
November 27th, 2008 at 12:23 am
Right on the mark brother…..
November 27th, 2008 at 12:24 am
uh…sister
November 27th, 2008 at 12:25 am
Well said Annie
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:56 pm
You put is beautifully, Scott!
December 7th, 2008 at 1:46 am
I’m the only one that should be offended. Annie was just bored so she made this blog up… being a cry baby. boo hoo
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January 15th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Sounds to me like Bnd is now getting that share of attention he feels he so richly deserves. With this blog going, he is now getting double the attention. He also seems to be the person that no matter what you say or do, he IS the victim. Everyone is against him, everyone is “judging” him.
Attacking Annie only made him more noticeable, ergo, “Look at me! Look at me!”. So, judging you we are not, but judging your actions, we are. Those actions were rude, obnoxious, and just downright uncalled for. BND, you weren’t trying to get inside Annie’s head; you were trying to gain attention. You got it. But is this really the type of attention you want? Wouldn’t you rather someone look forward to playing with you at the tables, than dread it, not because of your possible skills, but because you’re unkind and have a mouth we’d all like to avoid?
I had the same from a player I beat the other night. His comments ran from calling me names I didn’t know could be typed on UB, to possible scenarios of my future poker days. He finally told me to “eat his…..” well, you get the picture. But it stopped when I told him “thanks for the invite, but I choke on small bones”. Speaking of such………Bdn….ya know?
January 22nd, 2009 at 6:32 am
well riverwoman…
sounds to me like you like my type. you did a great job of projecting that for all of us – with your well thought out, long and meaningless essay response you posted up there. as a matter fact, you put it so beautifully… i would even say that you are the person your describing… trying to say it’s me… how sick. It’s clear that you want the attention. Not any of us. Good try, thanks for playing.
I wanted to get inside Annie’s head and that’s all…
AND JUST FOR THE RECORD:
ANNIE,
in your original post on this blog, you LIED your as* off!!!!
you never said anything to me at that table… here’s what you said in your post:
“Now normally I just ignore people like that. But this particular night I was in a mood and I started into him. I asked him why he felt the need to spread whatever blackness and misery he felt in his soul around to everyone else at the table because clearly to spread misery the way he was he must feel such despair in his own life. Now, I admit it, that was a little harsh and I really try never to react that way. But something in this guy just made me want to say something. I needed to ask, just one time, why someone wanted to ruin everyone else’s good time like that. His answer? “You can just ban my chat if you don’t like it.””
That’s all bullshi*. and you know it Annie, you never said any of that! but I’m glad to know you wanted to. You’re immature and deceitful. Bah! yes, i said it! but it’s true… she lied!
The only thing TRUE about that whole paragraph is that i told someone else who was at the table, that if annie was mad she can ban my chat.
Friends of you all,
-Bnd
January 22nd, 2009 at 6:36 am
and by the way… i doubt annie let’s my post through b/c im exposing to everyone that shes a liar. Oh well.
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:33 pm
i just started playing on this site and was just playing in a 27 person $20 tourney. yea i know big league stuff. so it gets down to 4 players and the other three start calling me names like bitch, jackass and of course i let it distract me cuz i couldn’t really believe it! so i asked what the problem was and one of them says they don’t like to see bad play rewarded. LOL mind you this was a $20 buy-in and these assholes thought they were so awesome that it was ok to talk to another person in that manner. I am not sure this is the place i wanna play. Does this kind of thing happen often?
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:44 pm
It was really weird too how these three never peeped until they were the only ones left and then it was like gang rape. I guess I am more pissed then I realized. Does the average player have options in how to handle these situations? I am shocked that these are adults. Alright enough of my whining. I’ll go put my big girl britches on.
February 5th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Hello mrsbooe,
This is Maggie, Customer Support Supervisor, and I wanted to let you know that UltimateBet does not tolerate abusive or offensive language at our tables. I will personally look for the chat logs that you mentioned and take the proper measures as well. Also, let me give you some tips in case you ran into players who unfortunately use foul language at our tables:
* You have the option to block a player’s chat by right clicking on the player’s image and selecting “Block Chat”.
* Please send an e-mail to support@ultimatebet.com with the offender’s nickname and Tournament or Table number so our Monitoring Team reviews the chat logs and take action immediately.
We take great pride in providing a safe, reliable, and secure poker playing environment and encourage players to help us be our eyes and ears. Although we monitor the tables as much as possible, the cooperation of our players is a critical part of making UltimateBet a fun experience for all.
Thank you for your comments!
October 30th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
tonight i decoded to play sng free gAMES JUST FOR THE EXPERIENCE AND I WAS REALLY FRUSTRAATED WHEN A MAN JUST KEPT FOLDING SO HE WOULD WIN. IT SEEMS TO ME EVEN IF THE GAME IS FOR FUN AND NO MONEY IS INVOLVED YOU SHOULD NOT MAKE IT SO UNCOMFORTABLE FOR THE OTHERS PLAYING FROM THE START TO THE END HE NEVER BET UNTIL HIS BLINDS TOOK HIM INTO THE FINAL THREE CANT SOMETHING BE DONE ABOUT THAT